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>
>After seeing Aziz's list, I thought back to all of the classes I've taken and
>put together a list of those I would recommend.  I agree with BOTANY 240, and
>I would suspect BOTANY 468 is everything Aziz says it is and more.  In
>addition, I would recommend, nay require, the following classes.
>
>
>HISTORY 119? Roman Empire (Professor Sacks)
>
>I don't know if Sacks is still teaching this class.  He is a very entertaining
>lecturer, and a good representative of the many good History teachers at the
>University.  This particular class will teach you all about Rome, from
>Tribunes to Mithraism, from Suetonius to SPQR.  As with most ancient history
>classes, the information is all based on literature of the time, so there are
>a lot of books for the class by people with funny names. :-)  
>
>
>HISTORY 115 Medieaval Europe 450-1500 [or roughly, The Fall of Rome to the
>Beginnings of the Reformation] (Professor Barker)
>
>This is by far one of the best introductory history classes available.  Barker
>emphasizes culture and politics rather than dates and events.  His lectures
>are slightly complex and his testing isn't any better than any other
>professor, but if you are at all interested in history, especially this
>particular age, this is a class you want to take.  Take this class and you'll
>learn two things: Why the Middle Ages should never be called the Dark Ages,
>and why you really want to learn history (and it's NOT so you aren't doomed to
>repeat it).
>
>
>FOLKLORE 100 Introduction to Folklore
>
>Unfortunately, the professor I took it with is not teaching this semester, but
>it is sure to be an interesting class anyway.  It counts as ethnic studies,
>without emphasizing any particular ethnic group.  Learn about what Folklore is
>(not just stories, and in fact, not even just oral), and learn how to tell an
>Urban myth from a fact (you'll be amazed at the number of myths you thought
>were facts).  If you have time to wait some semesters, take it with Prof.
>Magliocco, although I'm sure there are other good professors.
>
>
>ENGLISH/HISTORY 370? The Anglo-Saxons (Professor Ringler)
>
>(I'm not sure about the course number, but I've taken so many courses in
>different departments with 370 as their number, that this is as good a guess
>as any.)  Ringler treats each lecture like he is telling a story, and in fact
>in one lecture during the semester that I took the class, all he did was tell
>a story.  Again, he's more interested in people and culture than dates.  He
>bases his lectures on both artifacts and literature of the time.  You'll learn
>all about how to write and bind a medieval manuscript, and what a Quire is. 
>There is a large unit on Beowulf (which unlike most 'Classical' Literature is
>actually interesting) and the Anglo-Saxon oral tradition.  His tests are
>simple for essay exams (although not easy), original thoughts aren't necessary
>(although thinking is), just show that you learned in the class.  He takes
>most of the questions for the exam from suggestions the class gives him.
>
>
>CIVIL ENGINEERING 450 Surveying for Non-Majors (Prof. Scherz)
>
>Unfortunately, this is one of those classes where everyone in it has a reason
>they need to take it.  Professor Scherz is somewhat of a lunatic, if you take
>this class with him you'll learn a lot of things about history which you
>probably have never heard before and may or may not be true.  (For instance,
>why Pythagoras was not the true originator of his Theorem, and the great joke
>T. Jefferson and B. Franklin played on the fundamentalists of the early U.S.) 
>You will also learn why the English measuring system makes much more sense
>than the Metric System (according to Scherz), and how to survey with just your
>hands and feet and no instruments.  You will also learn all about those guys
>with the yellow tripods and flags who get in the way when you're driving down
>the highway.  In fact, you'll get to be one in this class.  Due to an Army
>background, he grades almost everything based on group projects, which means
>if you want a good grade, you have to make sure your group does a good job.
>
>
>GEOGRAPHY 370 Introduction to Cartography (Prof. Woodward)
>
>I would not advise taking this class with any other professor than Woodward. 
>This is a very interesting class that will teach you EVERYTHING you've ever
>wanted to know about maps and how to make them. (As a cartography major, I
>learned everything I ever really needed to know in that class)  Unfortunately
>they no longer have the big map project in the lab session (I don't know how
>they get by without it).  I would definitely advise it if you think you'll
>ever have to make a map of any sort, even if it's just a map of how to get to
>your house.  It's great for fulfilling breadth requirements (I can't remember
>which, possibly Physical Science), and there are plenty of people in there who
>will never take another Geography course.  Woodward doesn't believe in grades,
>but unfortunately the Geography Department does, so he can't do anything like
>Tim Allen does to make the grading any easier.
>
>
>COMMUNICATION ARTS 350 Introduction to Film
>
>Learn everything you've ever wanted to know about Movies.  You get to watch
>movies as part of the class, in fact.  Of course, most of the time you'll have
>to analyze them while you're watching, but that's not too difficult.  Remember
>to take this early in your college career, in case you decide that that's what
>you want to do with your life.
>
>
>ANTHROPOLOGY 107 Evolution of the Human Species
>
>This one will tell you all about the evolution of humanity.  You'll learn
>about Lucy and other Australopithecines.  You'll learn everything you need to
>know about evolution, except what you'd learn in Botany 240.  Tests for
>introductory Anthropology courses tend to be multiple choice, although they
>depend on the instructor.  This is another course you want to take early, in
>case you decide to make this a major.  There is an honors section of this
>class taught by Schoeniger, who is generally a very good professor.
>
>
>LINGUISTICS 200 Introduction to Language (Prof. Street)
>
>Just learning a foreign language isn't enough.  Everyone should be required to
>take this class for their foreign language requirements.  This will teach you
>what it means to speak a language.  You will learn why it is almost impossible
>to force either change or standardization on languages.  You will learn why
>everyone has an accent (you may even learn how to listen for the differences
>between accents), and why there is no such thing as 'bad' grammar but why it's
>probably a good idea to learn good grammar anyway.  Professor Street is the
>recommended professor, but he is getting old and may not be teaching anymore,
>and I'm sure this class will be interesting no matter who teaches it.
>
                                            NEIL
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Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 16:39:19 -0500
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I would simplify Neil's remarks by adding that any course with Sacks (Rome,
Grece, or Jews Greeks and Romans) would be not only entertaining but also
very important in busting the myths about the ancient world.  I would like
to add that John Barker is retiring soon and any opportunity to take any of
his classes would be well worth it.  

Here are a list of profs I highly reccomend at the UW.  My rec is for ANY
class they are teaching if you want foundations in and development of
writing skills and critical thinking:

Hebrew studies: David McCarthy

English: Knowles

History: Ken Sacks, Larry Dickey, John Barker, Bill Courtenay

Classics and ILS: Barry Powell, Fannie LeMoine

Poli Sci:  Booth Fowler (KEITH GILLETE WILL CONCUR WITH THIS ONE I AM QUITE
SURE)

Com Arts: Hanns Hohmann (I do not beleive he got tenure, though)

French & Italian/ Med Studies: Chris Kleinhenz


I ALSO CANNOT STRESS HOW MUCH I HAVE ENJOYED MY BALL ROOM DANCE CLASS. 
PLEASE TAKE IT.  IT HAS BEEN GRANTED PROVISIONAL STATUS AS AN OLYMPIC SPORT
FOR THE 96 OLYMPICS.  I ALSO TOOK OPERA WITH DILL AND IT WAS GREAT.  HE IS
AN EXCELLENT PROF AND STRESSES NOT JUST THE MUSIC APPRECIATION BUT THEMES
WITHIN THE OPERAS AS WELL AS THEMES AND MOVEMENTS WITHIN OPERA HISTORY.  HE
STARTS WITH THE BEGINING AND SURVEYS THE IMPORTANT FIGURES FROM GLUCK,
HANDEL, METASASIO, MOZART, VERDI, DONIZETTI, PUCCINI, AND POST-MODERNS LIKE
STRAVINSKY.  WE SPENT TIME ON JOPLIN, TOO. GREAT CLASS. 

Date: Sat, 22 Apr 95 18:31 CDT
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Hello all,
        Mr.Oppel has offered some lovely wisdom involving course selection,
I'd like to comment on a bit of it.
 
English: Knowles
        People either like this man or they hate him. Apparently
Greg liked him, I believe that Jen has a fondness for him as well.
I despised this man and it is my understanding that much of the
English department (faculty staff and students) agrees with that
judgment. My advice would be to register for the class, you should
be able to tell in the first week if you find this man brilliantand inspiring or odious and unbearable.  He is one of the foremost
Shakespeare scholars on the planet (if you like that sort of thing).
Be wary of his exams, they are very misleading (IMNSHO).
 
French & Italian/ Med Studies: Chris Kleinhenz
        This man is a god.  He's a fairly tough grader, but he knows
approximately everything.
        After working with Herr Kleinhenz for two years I must
say that missing his Dante class would be a tragedy. Listen
carefully to the lectures, his humor can be pretty subtle.
 
        I should also reiterate the comments about Tim Allen (Botany,ILS,
Atmospheric/Oceanic Science, Environmental Science...)Also a god.
 
        Good luck.
 
                                                Kim

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>English: Knowles
> People either like this man or they hate him. Apparently
>Greg liked him, I believe that Jen has a fondness for him as well.

Actually I found him fascinating as well.  Although I'll agree with Kim's
point that his exams are very misleading.  Expect to have a good time and
learn a lot, but not get a high grade.

Also, I can't remember if this has been mentioned, but anyone who hasn't
tried at least one of this campus' wonderful creative writing classes should
not miss the opportunity.

Another great class is Communication Arts 355 (Introduction to Video
Production)  It's the class that convinced me to change majors.  You do
studio multi-camera production work as well as film style individual remote
work.  It's a lot of fun.

Justin

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>Kim does not like Knowles because he turned down her sexual advances. 
>Contact Senator Heflin's office concerning "the scorned woman" complex.

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>Kim does not like Knowles because he turned down her sexual advances.
>Contact Senator Heflin's office concerning "the scorned woman" complex.
 
What makes you think he refused?  I just can't recommend a prof. who
can't perform under a little pressure...
 
                                                Kim

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>>Kim does not like Knowles because he turned down her sexual advances.
>>Contact Senator Heflin's office concerning "the scorned woman" complex.
> 
>What makes you think he refused?  I just can't recommend a prof. who
>can't perform under a little pressure...
> 

Please, please, this is a family Listserver...

Besides, I think in the middle of the day on Bascom Hill with his wife at a
meeting in North Hall was probably not just a little pressure.  I'm sure
almost anyone would have been unable to perform once you brought out the
whip.  I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did.

                                            NEIL
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